Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:49:36 -0500
From: txliberty@hotmail.com ("Terry L Parker")
Subject: [libs4peace] Justice without a Bill of Rights
To: lptexas@lptexas.org


This is how it can look; so pay attention!

American Justice may now be pursued by govt without what Prez Bush calls
'bad guys' hiding behind the US Constitution and its 'Bill of Rights' (1st
ten amendments)

Much more below after this:


NEW YORK (CNN) -- Decrying the government's decision to transfer her client
to the custody of the U.S. military, an attorney for Jose Padilla, the
suspect in an alleged radioactive "dirty bomb" plot, urged a federal court
Tuesday to release him.


Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said earlier Tuesday that Padilla -- who
also goes by the name of Abdullah Al Muhajir -- may never face trial.

"Our interest is not in trying him and punishing him," Rumsfeld said. "Our
interest is in finding out what he knows."

U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft said Padilla would be treated as an
"enemy combatant" of the United States, a move that means he has fewer legal
rights than an ordinary defendant in a criminal case. As an "enemy
combatant," Padilla can be held indefinitely by the military.



MoreAt: http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/06/11/dirty.bomb.suspect/index.html




            Lawyer disputes suspects detention


            Military custody for accused bomber called unconsttutional


            By Steve Fainaru
            THE WASHINGTON POST



      NEW YORK, June 11   The attorney for a U.S. citizen accused of
plotting to explode a radioactive dirty bomb in the United States filed a
motion in federal court today challenging his indefinite detention at a
high-security naval brig in Charleston, S.C.


MoreAt: http://www.msnbc.com/news/765635.asp


So, what could American govt become like without its Constitution and 'bill
of rights' to hold it back?

'History' shows how to interrogate and punish sans 'bill of rights'

Type the word 'punishment' in to the History Channel's site 'search'
then click on:

     Punishment
      Sat, June 15 1:00 PM

      Saturday , June 15 01:00 PM - 03:00 PM
      Punishment

      The definition and exercise of criminal punishment has changed
dramatically during the course of history. From execution by wild animals
during ancient Greek and Roman times to religious torture during the
Inquisition using the most perverse instruments ever devise to the cruel
and unusual punishments meted out by many nations to this day, we trace the
often ironic history of man's perverted and creative attempts to bring about
a more humane society.



http://www.historychannel.com/



For what follows, if you don't already have it:

Download WinZip 8.1
from CNET's download.cnet.com
or

Download WinZip 8.1
(winzip81.exe - 1,803,848 bytes)
from a WinZip download server.



At: http://www.winzip.com/ddchomea.htm





And instruction from around today's world of NO 'bill of rights'



Punishment via pulled apart by jeeps:

http://multimedia.ogrish.com/download.php?filename=armstreech.zip



Execution via burned alive:

http://multimedia.ogrish.com/download.php?filename=burnex.zip



Torture via penis amputation:

http://multimedia.ogrish.com/download.php?filename=cutoff.zip

and:

http://multimedia.ogrish.com/download.php?filename=playmate.zip



Without Constitutional constraint, 'community' can participate:
http://multimedia.ogrish.com/download.php?filename=enemy.zip


Juvenal justice can be made more intense:
http://multimedia.ogrish.com/download.php?filename=kidbeat.zip


Cut throats of 'cut throats' possible without 'bill of rights'
http://multimedia.ogrish.com/download.php?filename=rusthroat.zip


America saw Vietnamese 'ally' perform this street execution:
http://multimedia.ogrish.com/download.php?filename=streetex.zip



As long as Americans are ok with govt engaging in 'war' without adhering to
the US Constitution's prescribed process to either 'declare war' or 'issue
letters of marque & reprisal' what's a little 'bill of rights' infringement.
Hey, there's a 'war' remember; 'war on terrorism' 'war on drugs' and...
you get the picture?


Self defense or self delusion,
Terry Liberty Parker
AustinVoiceCall 1.512.494.9176
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